Author Topic: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?  (Read 85509 times)

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #80 on: April 30, 2008, 09:45:02 pm »
also .NET IS THE FUCKING DEVIL FUCK YOU MICROSOFT SUCK ON MY BALLS AND TAKE YOUR VISUAL C C pound sign AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS TOO

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #81 on: April 30, 2008, 10:40:19 pm »
impressive rant.  I'm giving up on Java cause I can't remember anything about it anymore.  It seems i've lost my mind.  and the trouble with that is i can't remember where i put it.
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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #82 on: May 01, 2008, 05:52:31 pm »
Buggy.  You forgot the spaces between the stupids.

Sorry my bad.  This should fix that:

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do i=1,4
      write(*,*) 'stupid '
enddo
write(*,*) 'for loops'

As for BangDoll's rant, I completely agree about the lack of comment stuff.  The worst is uncommented nonobvious code, so annoying.

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #83 on: May 01, 2008, 09:10:53 pm »
also .NET IS THE FUCKING DEVIL

Can't be!  That leaves no room for Java.

I am so sick and tired of the Java supporters like IBM saying you write-once-run-anywhere, yet Sun gave up on supporting backwards compatibility several years ago.  You write something in Java today there's absolutely no garauntee it will run properly in the next version.  We have several packages that require specific versions of the Java platform, becuase they don't work with the latest.  That should never be allowed, but is in the land of Java.  .NET enforces backwards compatibility toa much greater extent (only if you've violated some security hole that they've closed up or some similar exploit do you get busted.)

Java also only supports one version on a particular computer, yet the PC setup package doesn't delete old version's so unless you know what to do, everytime they release an update its another 150 megabytes of hard drive space commited to the void.  .NET supports multiple independent framework versions on the same PC.  And if you've been keeping score, Java 5 had TWELVE service packs. (Plus the base version, that's nearly 2 gigabytes folks).  Its nice that Java 6 reclaimed all the space used by 5, but its started the service pack nonsense again.  If you've got 1.6 base and the three service packs for it you're sitting on 550 megabytes of Java code. All three major .NET framework versions together weigh in at under 500.  And people accuse Microsoft of bloatware.



As for BangDoll's rant, I completely agree about the lack of comment stuff.  The worst is uncommented nonobvious code, so annoying.

You got me.  I should have written

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// create a text box 640x480 pixels in size to view the output
System.CreateTextBox MyTextBox 0 0 640 480

// display "stupid" four times to the textbox, followed by "for loops"
for i 1 4 1
   MyTextBox.AddText "stupid "
endfor
MyTextBox.AddText "for loops"

// commit text to the textbox and wait for user reaction
react


because the really good programmers that write worthwhile shit never comment their fucking code
I am a really good programmer and just did comment my code, so I've just proven you wrong.





By the way, now would be a good time to share one of my favorite code-quotes:

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// keep comments to yourself

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #84 on: May 01, 2008, 09:35:29 pm »
So glad I got out of computer science.

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #85 on: May 02, 2008, 08:40:49 pm »
Java had so much potential, but SUN is filled with egotistical self-centered pricks and fucking flushed it all down the fucking toilet.

I thought that going open source would help solve some of Java's shortcomings but I am becoming increasingly aware that that hasn't done a damn lick of difference.

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #86 on: May 02, 2008, 09:07:28 pm »
It in fact did the opposite.  It gave software companies all the tools to create their own frameworks, for which they could charge terrible licensing fees for stuff that would have been free if the normal, free Java framework(s) had been used instead.

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #87 on: May 03, 2008, 01:04:42 am »
You got me.  I should have written

Code: [Select]
// create a text box 640x480 pixels in size to view the output
System.CreateTextBox MyTextBox 0 0 640 480

// display "stupid" four times to the textbox, followed by "for loops"
for i 1 4 1
   MyTextBox.AddText "stupid "
endfor
MyTextBox.AddText "for loops"

// commit text to the textbox and wait for user reaction
react

I wasn't really commenting on your code, it's fairly obvious at to what it does.  Still the comment are appreciated.  What I'm really commenting on are people who use work arrays to do complex math equations and don't comment or provide a guide as to what means what.

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #88 on: May 03, 2008, 06:49:34 am »
So glad I got out of computer science.

Me too.  And to think I was going to help make video games learning that shit...  >_>;

Hopefully when I go back to college this fall, I'll enjoy music composition as my new major.  If that doesn't work, I dunno what I'll do...  >_<

In other Tetsaru news, I've been participating in the Maximum Attack G event on PSU atm.  I even managed to make the time attack leaderboards with a couple of friends (457th place, lol):

http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/event/mag2008/en/timeattack/timeattack_05.html

I was REALLY hoping to earn that Spread Needle/G, though.  I just recently got past 10,000 kills... ;_;

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #89 on: May 03, 2008, 08:48:18 am »
Computer stuff is getting less effective as a choice of degree in general, the tech boom that was active when I was in CISCO has long since died down.

I'm going to get into medical, its practical, all the baby boomers are going to be in Nursing Homes within the next 10 years, its a field where you're always needed.

Music composition eh tetsaru? I hope you're good.

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #90 on: May 03, 2008, 10:12:39 am »
One thing the computer and health professions have in common is there's plenty of unfilled positions available so one won't have to worry about finding a job for a while.  Both will remain severely underpopulated for many years to come.  I feel sorry for all the folks coming out of college with degrees like education when there's two or three times as many of them as jobs available.

One problem computer industry has that hleath doesn't: no accrediation.  Doctors and nurses must pass standardized tests and are registered to practice in a given state.  So you're pretty sure doctors and nurses are ligitimate.  No such standard requirement for computer professionals, so you sometimes end up hiring bums who can't program a lick becuase they'll ask for less money than the more qualified applicants who can.

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #91 on: May 03, 2008, 10:40:16 am »
(If you don't wanna hear things that may offend you. Don't read spoilers. I assume everyone here knows about me by now anyway, just saying. Drama avoidance. You'll click them anyway.

What I am most likely to do is get a bachelor's in a medical profession, in the end, I would ideally like to become a doctor in either diagnostics or oncology (cancer), but whats nice is - Even if I never go past the bachelor's degree, I will still be in a career and industry that will ensure my fiscal comfort for many many years.

Because at this point, it was either law enforcement or medical, I don't really want to enlist in the armed forces, and I've got talents and knowledge I'm letting go to waste because I've been more concerned about trivial things.

Recent developments in my personality, results of therapy no doubt - Have allowed me to re-prioritize my life in general, I will be getting my driver's license, I will get my certifications for things like CPR and First Aid, I will obtain a low level medical job and work it while I attend school for my chosen degree. I will likely minor in a foreign language and possibly one other medical related subject - I love school, I'm weird, I know. And no, I'm not going to learn Japanese.

In the end, my more positive change most likely has a lot to do with me
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. And I am more than happy to get going on a path to somewhere now.

And yeah, believe me, we had nothing but fuck-offs in my CISCO classes, and a lot of those guys got their certifications too. To my knowledge only 1/4 or so of them got tech jobs, the rest live with their parents. lol. I don't wanna have to move back home or something because of a failure to grow up and take initiative.
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I also plan on getting my contractor's license, which would allow me to work in residential home construction and such, as a bit of side income - This also opens up things like real estate, etc. Really a beautiful little piece of paper. And I know the industry, as I've worked in it my entire life.

That ran long, sorry. I'm feeling kind of good today.

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #92 on: May 03, 2008, 01:18:07 pm »
Well I have certainly never taken an actual programming class.  The closest I got was a Numerical Methods class taught by my advisor during which I taught myself Fortran.  I will admit I am not the greatest programmer in the world but then again you don't really need to be in the realm of scientific computing.

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #93 on: May 03, 2008, 09:31:32 pm »
I believe teh US gov't is predicting a steady decline in computer programming jobs but an increase in other "related" fields.

Kind of like me and my shitty tech support jobs.  Yeah, those'll never go away because there's enough fucktards to go around fucking up their own computers and they're lazy dumb pricks they don't mind paying me $50 an hour to unfuck up their computers.


God I hate myself.

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #94 on: May 04, 2008, 08:23:16 am »
I believe teh US gov't is predicting a steady decline in computer programming jobs...

I develop systems to support Medicare contracts in the health insurance company I work at, therefore my salary is indirectly paid for by the US government.  That puts me in an ideal position to disagreement with this assessment.

Any company (including my own) that doesn't commit to adding programming resources is doomed to do things the way they are being done today, giving their competitors ample opprotunity to pass them.  So most healthy companies will be adding positions, not removing them.

Therefore, I think the only way the government's prediction works is when massive IT companies like Microsoft buy out other massive IT companies like Yahoo and then dismiss the majority of the employees.  It takes hundreds (maybe thousands) of regular sized IT departments to add a few positions to compensate for this offset.

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #95 on: May 08, 2008, 06:55:59 pm »
*kid raises hand from back of history classroom*

(teacher): "Yes, timmy?"

(timmy): "WHY ARE HISTORY THE SCUK?"

(teacher):"Your chair is a giant ant!"

(Edgar):"Use <-C to boost! All the way through final exams!"

(timmy): "I found you, uncle andross!"

Yeah. If you didn't understand the story, I hate my history finals so much T_T

they aren't hard, just a waste of time. I already proved I know 'bout dis shizniyt.
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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #96 on: May 08, 2008, 10:35:08 pm »
*kid raises hand from back of history classroom*

(teacher): "Yes, timmy?"

(timmy): "WHY ARE HISTORY THE SCUK?"

(teacher):"Your chair is a giant ant!"

(Edgar):"Use <-C to boost! All the way through final exams!"

(timmy): "I found you, uncle andross!"

Yeah. If you didn't understand the story, I hate my history finals so much T_T

they aren't hard, just a waste of time. I already proved I know 'bout dis shizniyt.

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #97 on: May 08, 2008, 11:13:25 pm »
Use bombs wisely.

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #98 on: May 10, 2008, 03:23:27 pm »
The enemy's up ahead.

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Re: XQZ ME, WTF R U DOIN?
« Reply #99 on: May 10, 2008, 05:23:45 pm »
I think you look better in a tank.

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