Author Topic: Star Wars vs Star Trek (Read 43209 times)

R-9 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 04, 2006, 03:10:31 pm »

Quote from: bfg00 on June 04, 2006, 03:03:44 pm

Really? Because that aspect really never came through in the movies. I now have a little more respect for the Imperial Navy, but not alot as why in the heck would you design a massive object the size of a small moon to have one small but catastrophic flaw.

Because the SSD is a command ship. Before the battle of Endor, the rebels never massed a fleet with enough strength to break through the ISD escort of one of those monsters, and they certainly couldn't build for a last-ditch suicide attack from a fighter. It was inconcievable that an SSD would ever actually be engaged in such close quarters.

bfg00 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 04, 2006, 04:27:56 pm »

Which I can believe, but I was making more of an allusion to the Death Star.

Still I can't figure out why you would build the SSD, I haven't looked at the specs in a long time but as far as I can remember its only real purpose is to look large and imposing.

R-9 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 04, 2006, 04:45:59 pm »

Quote from: bfg00 on June 04, 2006, 04:27:56 pm

Which I can believe, but I was making more of an allusion to the Death Star.

Death Star I wasn't built with rebel fighter superiority in mind It was mainly built as a terror weapon, after any rebel ships had already been defeated. Death star II would've actually been more or less indestructible, if completed.

Large and imposing is what the Empire is about. Plus, the emperor took it on himself to make all decisions regarding the Imperial forces.

bfg00 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 04, 2006, 05:45:26 pm »

True that. I agree with you there. Logic has no place when an evil meglomanic with a basically infinite money supply is ruling you.

Ellendesu · « **Reply #24 on:** June 05, 2006, 08:56:43 am »

Voted Star Wars

Screw the rebellion, the Empire is great as long as you're on thier good side

...and don't become a TIE Fighter Pilot.

JG · « **Reply #25 on:** June 05, 2006, 05:38:42 pm »

TIE fighters were clearly designed for numerical superiority, not for 1 on 1 dogfights like usually ends up in the movies. They just can't outmaneuver or outgun rebel fighters. Attrition is key - losing several TIEs to bring down a single Reb is well worth it in the Empire's mind.

R-9 · « **Reply #26 on:** June 05, 2006, 07:07:27 pm »

Quote from: JG00 on June 05, 2006, 05:38:42 pm

TIE fighters were clearly designed for numerical superiority, not for 1 on 1 dogfights like usually ends up in the movies. They just can't outmaneuver or outgun rebel fighters. Attrition is key - losing several TIEs to bring down a single Reb is well worth it in the Empire's mind.

The generally established kill ratio vs. Rebel fighters was three TIEs for every one... And that was before the Rebellion introduced specialized interceptors, such as the A-Wing and V-wing.

bfg00 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 06, 2006, 03:58:13 pm »

Well we know that the Empire definitely didn't scimp on the cash for its massive military industrial complex.

Ellendesu · « **Reply #28 on:** June 16, 2006, 05:05:38 pm »

Ah the simpler times, couldn't I just go back 4000 years or so during the Mandalorian Conflict?

importgamer13 · « **Reply #29 on:** June 16, 2006, 09:27:08 pm »

I think both series have had memorable characters.Star Trek had people like Harry Mudd,Kahn,Lore,and others,while Star Wars had Boba Fett,Chewbacca,Darth Maul and others as well.

Ellendesu · « **Reply #30 on:** June 16, 2006, 10:33:06 pm »

Quote from: importgamer13 on June 16, 2006, 09:27:08 pm

I think both series have had memorable characters.Star Trek had people like Harry Mudd,Kahn,Lore,and others,while Star Wars had Boba Fett,Chewbacca,Darth Maul and others as well.

Kahn?

KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHN!!!!!

importgamer13 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 16, 2006, 11:51:44 pm »

Quote from: The Philosopher on June 16, 2006, 10:33:06 pm

Kahn?

KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHN!!!!!

"Kirk?Kirk,you're still alive,my old friend?"

"Yes,I get to live for a few more sequels." ^_^

bfg00 · « **Reply #32 on:** June 17, 2006, 01:59:45 pm »

Quote from: The Philosopher on June 16, 2006, 10:33:06 pm

Kahn?

KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHN!!!!!

I love Star Trek 2. Best of the Star Trek movies.

"Botany Bay? Botany Bay!?! Oh no...Oh no!"

R-9 · « **Reply #33 on:** June 17, 2006, 02:13:58 pm »

Quote from: bfg00 on June 06, 2006, 03:58:13 pm

Well we know that the Empire definitely didn't scimp on the cash for its massive military industrial complex.

Well, in the newer EU material, the Pellaeon-class SDs do away with those ridiculous stand-up bridges and water-tower shield generators.

bfg00 · « **Reply #34 on:** June 17, 2006, 09:19:33 pm »

Well that's nice. I haven't read the new stuff, however I am happy they learned not to build bridges and shield generators like that.

importgamer13 · « **Reply #35 on:** June 17, 2006, 09:51:58 pm »

Quote from: bfg00 on June 17, 2006, 01:59:45 pm

I love Star Trek 2. Best of the Star Trek movies.

"Botany Bay? Botany Bay!?! Oh no...Oh no!"

Yeah,Wrath of Kahn is my fave of the old movies.

"Admiral?Admiral?...Admiral...never told you how...ADMIRAL Kirk...."
lol
Ricardo Montalban kicked ass as Kahn. ^_^

bfg00 · « **Reply #36 on:** June 18, 2006, 02:39:15 pm »

Yup and his quotes are awesome:

"Revenge is a dish best served cold, and it is very cold in space."

JG · « **Reply #37 on:** June 18, 2006, 05:25:57 pm »

The fact they got Montalban to play the same part he did in the original series was a big thumbs up. I mean, they couldn't even get Kirstie Alley to repeat her role, which undermined the whole point of Search for Spock, as she was major character and all.

2 > 6 > 1 > 3 > 4 > 5

bfg00 · « **Reply #38 on:** June 19, 2006, 04:57:59 pm »

Well the common theory is that all the even Star Trek films are good and all the odd ones are crap. This breaks down though when you hit the TNG stuff.

importgamer13 · « **Reply #39 on:** June 19, 2006, 05:10:25 pm »

Quote from: bfg00 on June 19, 2006, 04:57:59 pm

Well the common theory is that all the even Star Trek films are good and all the odd ones are crap. This breaks down though when you hit the TNG stuff.

So far,i haven't seen Star Trek Nemesis all the way through (I've seen bits and peices),so i can't really comment on that one...I did think Generations and Insurrection were okay, but my fave of TNG movies was First Contact.I thought the Borg were pretty interesting enemies,even on TNG's tv episodes.

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